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Discussion in 'Main Forum' started by T.C, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. T.C

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  2. Stars and Stripes

    Stars and Stripes Custom cruiser + Site Supporter

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    Interesting! as I was taught/advised to use off-siding while on a bikesafe course, but it was about 8 years ago
     
  3. T.C

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    The Police stopped teaching it on advanced courses about 15 years ago and about 10 years ago civilian instructors were told not to teach it.

    In a crash situation, as I say in the article, I would find it very difficult to defend someone who had a crash whilst offsiding, which would leave the rider open to a prosecution for careless or dangerous driving and the other side would rub their hands with glee as far as liability is concerned.

    But if the Police or any other organisation are still teaching it, then they also leave themselves open to a claim for contributory negligence and secondary liability.

    Anyone still teaching offsiding is leaving themselves wide open for a massive claim against them.
     
  4. Roadwart

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    I think the term used now is "Stay out to maintain a view but do not move out to gain a view" i.e. if you're already on the wrong side of the road having overtaken, use that opportunity to look ahead to see the direction of the road or if another overtake is on rather than "bunny hopping" the traffic. The obvious caveat is provided its safe to stay out.
     
  5. Tony

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    Ditto.... 3 years ago
     
  6. T.C

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    Staying out for or after an overtake is very different to offsiding for the purpose of negotiating a left hand bend.

    As we say at advanced level, never sacrifice safety for view. If view is compromised be prepared to reduce youe speed and be prepared to sacrifice your position, so for example move away from the dominant position.

    Offsidoing is intended for taking left hand bends at speed and I cannot think of any situation where a non emergency rider can justify this practice anymore.
     
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  7. Blade rr6

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    When i did bikesafe about 8 years ago no mention was made of offsiding. When i did the advanced 20 years ago they were huge on it. Some of the advanced lot were almost riding in the gutter of the r/h lane it was pathetic, still most of them took a corner like a 50p piece.
     
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