It all comes down to white lines :( HELP!!!

HELP!!!!!!!!!!

I have been offered a 'settlement/carrot dangle' for my bike crash. But lawyer states he needs confirmation to the correct road lines. Who here has any idea on the legalities and/or right and wrongs when it comes to white lines?????

If I over took on this straight road, was I in the wrong cause it was technically boxed lines?
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Sa...nRvSpEfPr5LI2IZh9kJL1g&cbp=12,338.42,,0,-0.88

HELP?!?!?

 

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consu.../@travel/documents/digitalasset/dg_192269.pdf
Hope this helps a bit ?

 

Oh you guys are wonderful!!! Beers coming your way!!

So standing my ground and not taking the carrot (specially cause the Consultant and physio reckon it'll be at least a year before I can bend my finger to make a fist)...

 

I think it only applies if the vehicle is either parked or it a utility vehicle of some kind (e.g. milk float, road sweeper) going less the (guess) 11mph.

 

I always understood that areas of hatched markings were not for overtaking. Have a read if this;

Diagonal white lines (hatched markings) bounded by broken lines may be used in the centre of the road to separate opposing flows of traffic. They are often provided at junctions to protect traffic turning right. They may also be used on the approach to a central traffic island or the startof a dual carriageway. Hatched markings with a single, broken boundary line may be used at the edge of the road or next to the central reservation of a dual carriageway: the diagonal lines always slope towards the direction of travel. You should not enter any hatched area bounded by a broken line unless it is safe to do so.
Found here: http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consu.../@travel/documents/digitalasset/dg_192269.pdf

Sorry Dave - just noticed that you posted the same thing. Doh

 

Hmmm so no closer to understanding.

However it does say "unless safe to do so"......

 

Unfortunately, I was only offering beer as payment....happy to pay a fiver worth LOL

 

I always thought you were not allowed to enter those areas, and I am pretty certain I knew someone got a ticket in a car for crossing them overtaking, though this was a very long time ago, maybe they have changed rules now

 

Best ask T.C.

Also, I'm unsure why your lawyer is not advising you on this?

 

Ask your Lawyer.
If you got hit in the hatched area then surely it was not safe to enter!! OR, it was safe when you entered, but not safe later when you were in it!!
Should you/could you have seen the hazard before you entered.

 

Consultant and physio reckon it'll be at least a year before I can bend my finger to make a fist)...[/quote]
I heard Aussie women's hands were permanent fists.

 

if you went in there to avoid a car, then no probs either i guess

 

That's only so they can grip a stubby better. Fuckin eh, ya big gallaaaahhhhh.

 

The lines are broken not solid, and so perfectly legal for you to pass, filter and overtake on these lines. They are just a different form of central hazard warning line.

You sometimes get hatched areas that are bordered by solid white lines, but this is not the case, and so legally there is nothing to prevent you crossing over them.

Your solicitor should be aware of this. I would be interested to know why he has advised you as he has done. He should be pretty clued up on road traffic legislation, but then, I suppose given how many solicitors are still of the belief that filtering and undertaking are illegal, it shouldn't surprise me.

 

Thanks for all the advice guys.

Basically lawyer has said he can't advise me as to whether I should take the carrot dangle or not, but wants further information rearding the ground markings.

Using good ole trusty googlemaps, it's a hatched area. I was in the hatched area filtering and she turned into me (so I impacted above her front wheel arch, so almost passed her). I hadn't even realised it was hatched. But the link above is quite clear - if safe to do so....


Lawyer states:
"I received a response from the third party’s insurers on 10th August 2012, in which they have stated that “liability is currently under investigation and we are awaiting sight of the police report”. They have gone on to state that their initial investigations suggest that you overtook their insured’s turning vehicle as they were indicating right. I am fully aware that your version of events is categoric, in that you were overtaking the third party vehicle when the driver made a sudden attempt to either turn right or attempt a U-turn, and if they did indicate, it was done simultaneously when they attempted the manoeuvre, and you were therefore unaware of their intended manoeuvre, until they suddenly turned into you. The insurers have made reference to the fact that the overtaking manoeuvre took place “at a junction and on hatched markings”. From the diagram that you provided, it appears that the point of impact was slightly beyond the junction at a point where one would expect a vehicle to turn right, but there is no suggestion of there being hatched markings."