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Scary stuff

Discussion in 'Main Forum' started by BlackHornet, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. BlackHornet

    BlackHornet Look before you turn Staff Member Moderator +

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  2. JimG

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    Strikes me it's all the fault of the bike that deliberately braked in front of the Range Rover. If the car had yanked his brakes on harder he would have had 20 bikes in his rear end. While it does not necessarily mitigate what then happened, it must have been extremely frightening for his wife and child both times they surrounded the car. Wouldn't want my wife and kids in that situation.
     
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  3. Patyogi

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    Yeah looks like the same to me, it was as if he was jigging about in front of the cage. What a mele' of Bikers they are all over the place.
    Not good riding at all, very irresponsible, they don't own the road. No wonder N.Y City has banned them.
    Lets hope no one was killed, a lot of the riders had lady pillions with no protection at all!
     
  4. BlackHornet

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    one of the bikers was killed. :thumbsdown:

    The story is that the range rover had been driving dangerously prior to the filming starting. I'm guessing thats what promted the biker to jam on his brakes. What came after that was shocking though. From what i can make out on the video the driver wasn't really trying to get away, at one point he is crawling along with a clear road in front of him. Had he phoned the NYPD while in the car they would have told him to stay on the highway and not leave it.

    We have all had to deal with bad drivers and i can understand the bikers reacting like they did. i can't honestly say i wouldn't have done the same thing as them. ( well i can as i would have gone ahead and made another car stop to work as a buffer then dragged him out of the car. )

    What was more shocking was that this happened in new york and yet no one had a gun, what is America coming to these days. :p
     
  5. Patyogi

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    Wow, truly scary stuff. Does not do either sides cause any good.
     
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  6. JimG

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    • No one was killed - fact one that puts a different complexion on things
    • The video doesn't show the driver driving erratically, it shows a lots of bikers behaving like t*ssers in a land where some bikers have a deservedly bad reputation.
    • The video strangely cuts off when they do stop him, not recording what happened next.
    Just because I ride a bike doesn't mean I have any sympathy with the bikers. If they surrounded me and forced me to stop in the middle of a major road I'd run the lot of them over :p I wouldn't expect a phone call to the police to solicit a response in the 30 seconds before I get beaten up :eek:

    I'm glad we didn't ride like that down the A2 on Sunday, or somehow someone would have got hurt, and I'm not sure I could blame the party who would have got caught up in it. :(

    I rather take the view "if you ride like a t*sser, you accept the consequences" :scary:
     
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  7. alexs

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    Really shocking situation but based on the video footage leaked (maybe the earlier and later stuff will come out at some point) I dont see that the driver had any choice.....I would put my kids protection over anyone elses and if it meant running a bunch of people who are seriously threatening their safety then so be it.
     
  8. JimG

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    Lady pillions who don't use protection just emphasises how irresponsible they are :giggle:
     
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  9. Patyogi

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    Jim stay on thread, or you'll get told off! :sneaky:
     
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  10. JimG

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    A spanking? beat.gif

    Oh b*gger, done it again :oops:
     
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    Pretty shameful behaviour from all parties, as far as I could tell. Brake checking a 4x4 is never going to end well and if the driver had left himself more room to react, he might not have hit the bike in front of him - although from the video it's hard to tell if he did or not
     
  12. BlackHornet

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    The problem is that the video doesn't show the start. If you saw the range rover cutting up the bikes then it puts one spin on it. If the bikers just picked on that driver for no reason it puts another spin on it.

    Clearly something has happened before the filming started but the question is what ?

    I have since read some of the police reports and I think the driver ( who wasn't beaten into a coma as first said ) has put a slightly different story to What is shown in the video. Claiming that his tyres were slashed forcing him to stop and that his vehicle was attacked by the bikers on the highway as soon as he stopped.

    What ever the case is it will have not helped biker / driver relations .
     
  13. MaDProFF

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    I think the Bike was trying to stop the Range Rover, so Range Rover had to make a decision, which we saw the outcome.
    All round it is pretty shocking, but one reason why I am not a lover of these big massive slow ride outs, it is very intimidating for car drivers, and overall actually slows car drivers down, thus making them more frustrated.
    It is like any Mass Group that seem to lose control, and cause trouble, where as I bet 95% of those riders are good people.

    You Tube Video's are not the best form of media to judge something in its entirety, generally so one sided.

    I agree Jim G any pillion wearing so little protection is silly especially in a ride out where bikes are riding all over the place, I was somewhat surprised we did not see another accident between bikes just following the car.
    Tom I think the Range Rover was just trying to stay on Clear road ahead as to not having to stop, did look like the Carriageway was coming to a stand still so he turned off it.

    Would be interesting to know the whole Story.
     
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    There is some video prior to the incident, although not showing the Range Rover, just the bikes on pavements, riding through red lights, down the wrong side of the road, up the hard shoulder etc. etc.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664 (several videos)

    and



    :thumbsdown:
     
  16. MaDProFF

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    LOl, Jim did you count the bikes? you could hear the horns etc blowing
     
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    I think Big Slow Rideouts are fine. I've been on a few, not my cup of tea, but to support a worthy cause I do not mind partaking. I do not think I have ever been on a big rideout where it has not been properly marshalled. Even on the recent Ashford ride out on the way to H's, we all pretty much road staggered in ONE lane, overtook when we needed too. You thank cars who move over and give you room, you be courteous...you are after all causing a disruption.
    I think the Air Ambuance ride last year was bigger, with no incident either.

    If you organise a big ride out with out marshals and regard for the community you are potentially going to disrupt, you aren't really the brightest spark.

    This event here looks like an irresponsible massive ride out, swarming over all any lanes, pavements, hard shoulders and generally ignoring road rules. I don't swear much, but they are cocks.
    If you started harrassing me and my family with a pack mentality of dozens if not more, leaning towards violent behaviour, sorry, I would run you over too (if you were blocking my path)....and you don't have to be riding a mandatory motorcycle either.
     
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  19. MaDProFF

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    If I recall though did'nt a guy not get knocked off last year at a ride from Ashford to Rye last yr?
     
  20. hoppielimp

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    I don't know about Ashford to Rye...didn't do that one, But let me qualify, when I say incident, I mean incident of the nature in this thread, causing a situation....not an accident. Marshalled or not, ride outs or solo...there can and unfortunately will be accidents.
     

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