Relaxed The Carnage easy sunday ..5th May

PM = panelman ...sorry shoulda been clearer
anyhow im going to put this on hold as i know Napa was desperate for me to do something along these lines and it sounds like a few others would like to have a join in , PM planMKII sounds a goodun, i will repost this again but in a few weeks maybe, sorry to PM and Megawho.

 

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Never mind. Lammy: save us! Or maybe I should invent one. It's been a while! MegaMan has post a 1066 version which sounds good to me as an alternative

 

I've seen what happens to your cars, you think I'm letting you near mine?!

 

I must admit, it would be lovely with more of the "take it nice and easy" rideouts, I don't do "seat of the pants" rides any longer, not with this bike.

 

Dont know about anyone else, but, my main line of work makes it difficult to commit to rideouts sometimes.

 

Gimme a shout when you are free for a rideout Sharon. I have plenty of spare time?

 

At first I was going to ask how should each of us determine our level. Then I realised we need some independent benchmark. Short of having one rider assess each of us (subjective, but it doesn't matter if consistent), I suppose we'll have to use our own subjectivity: I just went on a ride which was as fast as I feel comfortable on the road and would describe as 'spirited' but the more experienced riders in the group might have felt 'relaxed'. Every time I try to think of a measurable benchmark, I realise there will be exceptions - eg. 'Obey 30s and 40s but exceed momentarily higher limits during overtakes'. On a powerful bike that isn't hard, but a smaller bike will need determined peddling to do that consistently. And any fool can wind on the throttle, but can he corner fast but safe? I dream of this..!

Perhaps the definition is best left in the mind of each of us and should be set out as a guiding intention only. Participants can judge for themselves knowing the person setting the ride [so what does a Newbie do?] and each ride should have a couple of sensible old heads - yeah, right...

This is more than a two pint problem!

 

Dont worry, Carnage is gonna repost this in a few weeks once he has recharged his batteries in the sun and soaked his aching limbs in the Red Sea.....you have been forwarned ...and no excuses about jobs as mine dictates i work nights all through the week and turning my sleep pattern around is anightmare at weekends ...Saturday is almost impossible as i am a virtual zombie .....so 9 out of 10 its gonna be a sunday ( Roadwart take note )

 

keep em peeled .......im gonna work on it

 

While I agree that the definition is best left in the rider, if I wanted to do a 'spirited' ride or 'advanced' ride, I might be putting myself and others on that ride in jeopary as my level at the moment might not be that!

Just food for thought.... I'm all about coming home in one piece +/- bugs in teeth!

 

Regarding rider 'level' how about something fun and potentially violence instigating and have a "Rate the rider" thread

 

So: 10mm or more = Greens
<10mm = Orange
Chicken Strips? = Red.

Hmmn. This has the advantage of being simple. But I do have a tendency to overcomplicate stuff, and

I expect the over-keen yahoo will concentrate on scrubbing the edges without real road sense or experience or ability actually to go fast on the road in safety, while those who replaced their rear tyre after the last track day will have what may be described as 'Chicken Strip Disparity' or CSD for short. Ie. uniformly used front with a 'Green' rear.

Maybe this means I should stay in Green. But then how shall I advance, save by riding with those who are better than me?

 

I'll sell tickets to watch this.